AHS12 Georgia Ede MD Little Shop of Horrors? The Risks and Benefits of Eating Plants

At the 2nd Annual Ancestral Health Symposium 2012 (AHS12), Georgia Ede, M.D. gave her presentation titled “Little Shop of Horrors? The Risks and Benefits of Eating Plants”.

Georgia Ede, M.D., is the only psychiatrist at Harvard University offering nutrition consults to patients seeking an alternative to medications. She successfully applies modified Paleolithic dietary principles not only to the treatment of mood disorders, but also to “Mystery Syndromes”, such as Fibromyalgia, IBS, and Chronic Fatigue.

Plant-based diets are often touted as healthy, and yet many plants contain clever protective chemicals, carefully crafted by evolutionary forces over millennia, to serve the needs of the plant, rather than to nourish the human body. Many of these compounds are potentially toxic to animal cells, and include naturally-occurring pesticides, mineral chelators, and antibiotics.
Understanding what is lurking inside the vegetables we eat can be very useful in managing “mystery syndrome” symptoms that do not respond to a traditional Paleo Diet, such as Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, and Irritable Bowel Syndrome. Drawing upon scientific literature in the fields of medicine, botany, and toxicology, as well as upon my own personal and clinical experience, this presentation groups familiar foods into botanical families (crucifers, seeds, nightshades, etc) and introduces the audience to the potential risks and benefits of each. This talk is designed to be engaging, fun, and provocative.


25 Replies to “AHS12 Georgia Ede MD Little Shop of Horrors? The Risks and Benefits of Eating Plants”

  1. RonMac08

    I've had problems with plants all my life.  I can eat certain plants, beans, potatoes, tomatoes, but not others.  I've gotten sick with some vegetable I've eaten, but never knew why.  Maybe I'm super sensitive to some of the plant defenses. 

  2. Sophie A

    This talk in is no way scientific. Has she actually conducted any double blind studies with placebos, even with animals rather than humans? It seems a totally opinion based – anecdotes – and unscientific talk. Cherry-picking the literature from PubMed is not a study in itself. 

  3. Mhi kl

    Be your own guide. Those who want to go vegan, vegetarian, SAD, Mediterranean, Paleo, Keto-Paleo, sawdust and turnips (yum), MacDonald's, dry or wet dog or cat food (take your pick), fish powder should be blessed to chow down as s/he decides. Some do sun gazing at early dawn and final sun set and live to tell about it. What a wonderful species we are to have the choice to dine in the fashion that pleases each of us most.
    Pity the worm who’s only choice is dirt.
    Now, if you will excuse me, I have a neighbourhood vegetarian cat in the fridge that I need to warm in the microwave for my Cato-Paleo feast.

  4. Steve Bergman

    This is how science is supposed to work. Not sure how so-called nutrition "science" got so far off track, mistaking correlations done from horribly (and demonstrably) inaccurate questionnaire data, with causality. In no other branch of science, not even the soft sciences like psychology, is correlation confused with causation.

    For someone who used to think we knew so much more today than we did in the 70s, due to the big cohort studies, it's a bitter pill to swallow to admit that we don't. But to be true to the scientific method, that is exactly what we must do.

    I can see that many people here are averse to, or don't understand, the reality, pointing people to what they call "the facts" or "credible sources". But unfortunately, the "credible sources" are not real scientists, because they are not acting and thinking like scientists. They are statisticians playing a multivariate shell game with garbage data, and spitting out garbage conclusions at the public, which they bill as "facts".

    Dr. Ede is evaluating the data as a true scientist should.

  5. PeanutChoco1

    Who is arguing that vegetables are healthy because vegetarians tend to be healthier? This seems like a straw man argument, because I've never heard it used, ever. You could be a vegetarian and consume no vegetables.

  6. MacGamut16

    Really biased and stupid presentation. Get on NutritionFactsOrg to learn about the benefits of vegetables.

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  7. Mary Moon

    I think juicing's fine as long as you don't overdo it and mix it with fats. Have your juice on an empty stomach in the morning, then have your proteins and fat about an hour later (juice gets assimilated pretty fast). Avoid juicing fruits, stick to beets, cabbage, cucumber, celery and mostly leafy greens (spinash, kale etc) also have sweet veggies like carrots in smaller amounts. 

  8. Marcinmd1

    A friend is trying to get me to "Juice". They liquify large amounts of vegetables
    thinking they are getting a super dose of nutrients. I am resistant. I beleive controlling insulin with a Low Carb High Fat diet is the main event.What do you think about juicing vegetables?

  9. colonyofcells del machine

    Plants do protect themselves and can be dangerous. Clams/mussels that have toxins from algae can easily kill humans and humans who like to eat algae can also be poisoned. Poison mushrooms also kill humans quite fast. Some medicinal mushrooms can kill the liver. Some people are susceptible to kidney stones from oxalate which can be found in many things : fruit like star fruit, fruit eaten as vegetable like zucchini, greens like spinach, stalks like rhubarb, tubers like beets, nuts, seeds, etc.

  10. colonyofcells del machine

    Fiber is easy to test bec the effects of a fiber diet are seen the next day. My fiber intake is high & I tend to fill up the toilet bowl with long soft snake stools. In my rental place, the toilet flush is not that powerful so I have to shit, stop, flush, shit, flush, to avoid clogging up the toilet bowl. Sometimes, I even have to stop 2x and flush 3x just to be sure I don't clog up the toilet bowl. It is also easy to test the time the stool comes out by eating beets which can have red stools.

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